# HostBalls 2.0 **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Created:** [January 21, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119 "2020-01-21T21:33:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jarland](https://hostballs.com/letter_avatar/jarland/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Jarland](https://hostballs.com/u/Jarland)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/1 "2020-01-21T21:33:39Z")
Hey team, As we’re gearing up for 2020, it’s time for HostBalls to graduate and take a step forward. I’m toying with a wild idea, but I want your thoughts. Let me prepare you for the idea first, share with you my thought process, and see where you sit. The top complaints about HB are: 1. The name (I was drunk, we all know this) 2. Discourse-specific functionality (like thread scrolling) My thought is that while we’ve done some great things here, it’s not too late to reinvent ourselves. We can rename, we can move from Discourse. The data sets of Discourse are nearly impossible to move, the beta branch is better supported by the devs than the stable branch on Discourse, and our DB schema has changed a lot since the last “stable” release. So those two+ year old plugins that claim to be able to perform migrations, that ain’t happening. Can we do something crazy enough to work? Can we reinvent ourselves with a fresh database, archive HB to a subdomain (and redirect the root domain to the new one), and blow up in a whole new way for 2020? Am I crazy or do you think we can pull it off? _Poll ([view on site](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/1))_ ---
**Author:** ![Wolveix](https://hostballs.com/user_avatar/hostballs.com/wolveix/32/19370_2.png) [@Wolveix](https://hostballs.com/u/Wolveix)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/2 "2020-01-21T21:36:39Z")
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**Author:** ![Ympker](https://hostballs.com/letter_avatar/ympker/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Ympker](https://hostballs.com/u/Ympker)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/3 "2020-01-21T22:10:26Z")
While I appreciate your idea of improving and starting over, I like things how they are over here. I don’t really need HB to become yet more similar to LET/LES (adapting to how these are in terms of forum software, user count, popularity). In fact I enjoy these two and HB separately for what they are. For HB that means few but cool and helpful people always lending an open ear for issues and happy to jump to help out (e.g. when I was trying to exchange the SSD in my old laptop, or @Wolveix encouragement in Ympkit making it something I could never imagine having made by myself ) or open for not so LET/LES-ish topics like working out, Divi Theme etc. Just my two cents though. Whatever shall happen to HB, will happen 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Clouvider](https://hostballs.com/user_avatar/hostballs.com/clouvider/32/10908_2.png) [@Clouvider](https://hostballs.com/u/Clouvider)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/4 "2020-01-21T22:11:34Z")
I actually really like Discourse, that’s one of the things that distinguishes this forum. Always liked it more than Vanilla. Please if you need to change it then not to something like WHT has - the reason I visit no more is the software and it’s usability on mobile… ---
**Author:** ![HalfEatenPie](https://hostballs.com/letter_avatar/halfeatenpie/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@HalfEatenPie](https://hostballs.com/u/HalfEatenPie)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/5 "2020-01-21T22:17:57Z")
I’d say exploring ideas on what the potential new system would be great. Is the new version on Xenforo? NodeBB? What’s the limitations of making a database migration? Not having a general idea on what the newer version (I understand it’s a blank canvas) would be great. No details about it brings uncertainty and therefore I foresee many people being reserved in their decision to keep things the way they are. I’d say if we can find a migration path to 2.0 with the current content as well then that’d be great. ---
**Author:** ![Jarland](https://hostballs.com/letter_avatar/jarland/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Jarland](https://hostballs.com/u/Jarland)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/6 "2020-01-21T22:19:57Z")
> [@HalfEatenPie](#): > > NodeBB That’s what I’m eyeballing ---
**Author:** ![Jarland](https://hostballs.com/letter_avatar/jarland/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Jarland](https://hostballs.com/u/Jarland)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/7 "2020-01-21T22:20:51Z")
Might as well be open about it all the way. This is what I’m toying with: [https://hostedtalk.io](https://hostedtalk.io) ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Tom](https://hostballs.com/letter_avatar/mr_tom/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Mr\_Tom](https://hostballs.com/u/Mr_Tom)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 11:26pm UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/8 "2020-01-21T23:26:42Z")
I like discourse. The only “scrolling” issue I have is occasionally I forget that I don’t need to scroll to the top of the page to click the logo (despite it being there all the time) to reload the homepage. Unless you’re not happy with the content or visitors, I don’t see what changing the name/platform would achieve? That’s not to say you might not like the current visitors, but are perhaps concerned the site is “missing out” on potential visitors due to name and/or platform? If you are looking at options of changing, it needs to be a full change - ie a replacement. Archiving under a subdomain might be useful, but IMO if you’re going down the route of changing it just change it. Setup some redirects and if possible migrate user accounts. ---
**Author:** ![aaronstuder](https://hostballs.com/user_avatar/hostballs.com/aaronstuder/32/5080_2.png) [@aaronstuder](https://hostballs.com/u/aaronstuder)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/9 "2020-01-21T23:41:16Z")
> [@Jarland](#): > > That’s what I’m eyeballing No, no, no. Discourse is the best option right now IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Jarland](https://hostballs.com/letter_avatar/jarland/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Jarland](https://hostballs.com/u/Jarland)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/10 "2020-01-21T23:44:16Z")
> [@Mr\_Tom](#): > > but are perhaps concerned the site is “missing out” on potential visitors due to name and/or platform? That is my concern, how to get over the next hill. ---
**Author:** ![LeonDynamic](https://hostballs.com/letter_avatar/leondynamic/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@LeonDynamic](https://hostballs.com/u/LeonDynamic)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/11 "2020-01-22T00:15:52Z")
I like it the way it is. If it ain’t broke… ---
**Author:** ![anon40039896](https://hostballs.com/letter_avatar/anon40039896/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@anon40039896](https://hostballs.com/u/anon40039896)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/12 "2020-01-22T00:16:25Z")
Oh, you want to “archive” HB on a (temporary) subdomain. Nice. You like “something new”. How about a little competition ? ---
**Author:** ![Miguel](https://hostballs.com/user_avatar/hostballs.com/miguel/32/67_2.png) [@Miguel](https://hostballs.com/u/Miguel)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/13 "2020-01-22T01:31:45Z")
I like Discourse tho ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Miguel](https://hostballs.com/user_avatar/hostballs.com/miguel/32/67_2.png) [@Miguel](https://hostballs.com/u/Miguel)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/14 "2020-01-22T01:40:37Z")
Ok if the template can be improved there… It looks good tbh. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisM](https://hostballs.com/user_avatar/hostballs.com/chrism/32/18913_2.png) [@ChrisM](https://hostballs.com/u/ChrisM)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/15 "2020-01-22T01:46:56Z")
I have a profound HATRED of Change.. Plz leave it! ---
**Author:** ![Miguel](https://hostballs.com/user_avatar/hostballs.com/miguel/32/67_2.png) [@Miguel](https://hostballs.com/u/Miguel)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/16 "2020-01-22T01:58:37Z")
Agreed. I still like this one more. ---
**Author:** ![qps](https://hostballs.com/user_avatar/hostballs.com/qps/32/6745_2.png) [@qps](https://hostballs.com/u/qps)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 2:01am UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/17 "2020-01-22T02:01:35Z")
_I vote for vBulletin and really strict rules about self promotion. Oh, and **lots** of signatures._ ---
**Author:** ![vovler](https://hostballs.com/user_avatar/hostballs.com/vovler/32/18767_2.png) [@vovler](https://hostballs.com/u/vovler)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/18 "2020-01-22T02:07:40Z")
Change is always welcome. You can always revert it depending on how the first few weeks go. ---
**Author:** ![Jarland](https://hostballs.com/letter_avatar/jarland/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Jarland](https://hostballs.com/u/Jarland)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/19 "2020-01-22T02:18:17Z")
> [@qps](#): > > _I vote for vBulletin and really strict rules about self promotion. Oh, and **lots** of signatures._ ![image](https://hostballs.com/uploads/default/original/2X/3/31a9f39c9473c38dd3a82628415bcb023b0d6fdd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Wolveix](https://hostballs.com/user_avatar/hostballs.com/wolveix/32/19370_2.png) [@Wolveix](https://hostballs.com/u/Wolveix)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 2:20am UTC](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119/20 "2020-01-22T02:20:51Z")
Discourse feels a lot more polished to me, but NodeBB is still a great choice. Personally, I would prefer to stick with Discourse, but I’ll embrace the change either way 😄 [Next page](https://hostballs.com/t/hostballs-2-0/4119.md?page=2)